Bug 202306251 incorrect post timestamp

Sun, 25 Jun 2023 11:30:32 +0200

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hubzillar была создана публикация Sun, 25 Jun 2023 11:30:31 +0200

Bug 202306251 incorrect post timestamp

Hubzilla behaviour becomes more strange after upgrades before sufficient quality assurance tests.

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Mon, 26 Jun 2023 01:19:30 +0200

Grouchy

grouchy@hub.grouchysysadmin.com

The picture is unable to be viewed. It's showing permission denied.

Mon, 26 Jun 2023 08:25:27 +0200

_jayrope

jrp@hub.kliklak.net

" Apologies but this site is unavailable at the moment. Please try again later. "

Mon, 26 Jun 2023 10:35:48 +0200

hubzillar

hubzillar@tiksi.net

Seems that when a hubzilla server is offline, clone accounts cannot be accessed.

If an image is posted with a forum post, but inaccessible via that forum, this is another bug

Suggest permission denial bug is reported within hubzilla support forum.

Mon, 26 Jun 2023 19:06:03 +0200

Shimriez

shimriez@zotum.net

I frequently use clones when my main server is offline. I've not had any issues with it.

Is the picture in question public?

Tue, 27 Jun 2023 08:21:43 +0200

Jupiter Rowland

jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu

Out of curiosity, I haven't investigated this yet:

If you write a post or an article with image links to your channel's file space, and your channel has a clone, what happens to the image links in the cloned post or article? Is it always changed to whatever hub a post or an article is cloned to? Or do posts and articles stay untouched upon cloning, therefore linking to images etc. on whichever hub a post or an article was written on?

Tue, 27 Jun 2023 18:37:53 +0200

Marshall Sutherland

dwatney@hub.farthinghalearms.com

I imagine that a link to an image would have to be a link to a specific server. Even if that image got cloned to another server, the link is going to be specific. For it to work otherwise would seem to require a 3rd server to decide which of the two servers hosting the image to direct you to.

Tue, 27 Jun 2023 19:22:02 +0200

hubzillar

hubzillar@tiksi.net

The image has permissions to view from the 'hubzilla support forum'. This seems automatic (and sensible) if the image was transferred to content to be posted to the 'hubzilla support forum'. Since the image cannot be viewed from the forum, another bug.

Wed, 28 Jun 2023 07:58:46 +0200

Jupiter Rowland

jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu

@hubzillar If you allow only one channel to see an image, then only this one channel can see the image.

If the channel happens to be a forum, then only the forum/the user who runs the forum can see the image, but not those who are connected to the forum. Hubzilla cannot grant permissions based on what forums a channel is connected to, and the permissions system cannot change the way it works based on the channel role set up for any given channel.

In order to make it possible to share an image "privately" through a forum, Hubzilla would have to deduce from the channel role settings which can be customised that the channel in question serves as a forum. And whenever one of the connections of the forum grants image viewing permission to the forum, Hubzilla would automatically have to extend the permission of an image in the poster's file space to all connections of the forum, one by one. It would have to allow people who aren't explicitly authorised by the image owner to see the image, and it would have to modify privacy settings for files behind the back of the owner of these files.

Fri, 30 Jun 2023 12:00:44 +0200

hubzillar

hubzillar@tiksi.net

@Jupiter Rowland

If the channel happens to be a forum, then only the forum/the user who runs the forum can see the image, but not those who are connected to the forum.

This is not logical because if people post text to the forum, only the forum owner would see the text and this would make the purpose of the forum to be a nonsense.

If the software is configured correctly and logically, a forum channel should have appropriate permissions for all content posted to that forum; otherwise it is not a forum.