App Not Installed

App Not Installed - Error

Joltrast

CST, Wed, 07 Nov 2018 02:14:50 +0200

!Hubzilla Support Forum
I've just cloned my account to a new hub as I've learnt I'm on an experimental node which could become unstable if the admin decides up update. When I try to connect to a new contact I'm told I don't have the premium channel app installed even though I have. Is this just a sync issue and something that will resolve itself eventually?

TIA

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Joltrast

Wed, 07 Nov 2018 02:24:52 +0200

Hasn't done so in my case, at least not yet.

Max Kostikov

Wed, 07 Nov 2018 02:30:02 +0200

I saw the same issue today.
I think @M. Dent can help to figure out what happens here.

Joltrast

Wed, 07 Nov 2018 02:51:27 +0200

Thanks @Max Kostikov

Joltrast

Wed, 07 Nov 2018 03:52:34 +0200

@M. Dent

zotum to tiksi
I tried connecting, nothing happened then I went to their profile page and tried to connect there. That's when I got the error (They have since conected to me, so I can't test again).
Pretty sure it was my hub reporting this (New cloned hub).

Joltrast

Wed, 07 Nov 2018 04:15:15 +0200 last edited: Wed, 07 Nov 2018 04:15:31 +0200

Yes and I made sure it was installed as soon as i cloned over.

phanisvara das

Wed, 07 Nov 2018 04:39:06 +0200 last edited: Wed, 07 Nov 2018 04:43:50 +0200

if i'm the "they" you tried to connect to i can disconnect and we can try again.

i think this happened because i had been connected to you earlier (one-way) and when you tried to connect that connection was activated w/o reporting anything. doesn't matter if you did this from your old or new hub since connections are synced.

but i don't have "premium channel" active or even installed.

edit: now i remember that the same thing happened when i wanted to connect to mike mcgarvin. whenever i clicked 'connect' i got a popup about premium channel. at that time i installed it, but the result remained the same, so i uninstalled it again, thinking mike is too busy and has some restriction on connections.

phanisvara das

Wed, 07 Nov 2018 05:13:38 +0200

happy to, but first i need to know if it was really me joltrans was talking about. if yes, should both of us disconnect again or only he? that was the state before this happened. i was connected to him one-way and when he tried to start a connection he couldn't and apparently got this error. waiting for him to come back now...

Joltrast

Wed, 07 Nov 2018 05:18:43 +0200 last edited: Wed, 07 Nov 2018 05:19:50 +0200

Yes, it was you, @phanisvara das , LOL. I also coincidently got the same error trying to conect to @Mike Macgirvin

phanisvara das

Wed, 07 Nov 2018 05:20:55 +0200

so what should we do now, @M. Dent ?

Joltrast

Wed, 07 Nov 2018 05:30:28 +0200 last edited: Wed, 07 Nov 2018 05:31:22 +0200

OK, there was a delay, but I didn't get an error.
I have a hunch that it's a sync issue. Now my clone has synced it has settled down.

Joltrast

Wed, 07 Nov 2018 05:36:11 +0200

Worked fine on your channel page too.

phanisvara das

Wed, 07 Nov 2018 05:38:07 +0200

no.

phanisvara das

Wed, 07 Nov 2018 05:39:30 +0200

but there's something weird with my hub anyway. just found that posts from here (hub@phanisvara.com) don't federate to diaspora anymore. earlier they did. perhaps it's all my fault...

phanisvara das

Wed, 07 Nov 2018 05:42:06 +0200

i used to have my own pod (diasp.phanisvara.com) and federation worked fine. then i deleted that pod and this hub (hub.phanisvara.com) still tries to send to diasp.phani... but doesn't even attempt to deliver to diasp.org, the pod i'm using now.

phanisvara das

Wed, 07 Nov 2018 05:43:08 +0200

and yes, that's what happened. i had a one-way connection to joltrans and when he tried to connect the error happened. so i'll stay connected and joltrans should delete me.

phanisvara das

Wed, 07 Nov 2018 05:47:56 +0200

ok, so we both delete each other, then i add joltrans @ tiksi.net, then he tries to connect to me w/o accepting the connection from me, right?

phanisvara das

Wed, 07 Nov 2018 05:50:24 +0200

and i'll delete joltrans @ hub.toot as well, so it won't sync to tiksi.net.

phanisvara das

Wed, 07 Nov 2018 05:51:39 +0200

joltrans, waiting for you to delete me. once i do i won't see this thread anymore.

phanisvara das

Wed, 07 Nov 2018 05:58:31 +0200

ah yes. then i'll delete all joltras i can find now.

phanisvara das

Wed, 07 Nov 2018 05:59:24 +0200 last edited: Wed, 07 Nov 2018 06:00:16 +0200

done.

edit: joltras @diaspora is still there, but that shouldn't matter.

phanisvara das

Wed, 07 Nov 2018 06:06:03 +0200 last edited: Wed, 07 Nov 2018 06:09:27 +0200

that appeared to me right now too. happened when joltras reported he couldn't connect to me. i then added him at his new hub and had both of them active. now there's neither in my connections.

edit: "reported" as in told me via some other thread we were both in; before this got to the support forum.

Joltrast

Wed, 07 Nov 2018 06:13:47 +0200

deleted from hubcat and tiksi hubs

phanisvara das

Wed, 07 Nov 2018 06:17:05 +0200

so now i connect to you, joltrans, and you don't accept. then try to add me, either via button or typing phanis@hub.phanisvara.com into the connection thing. then we'll see what happens...

Joltrast

Wed, 07 Nov 2018 06:18:55 +0200

I just tried to connect to you now. Pressing connect from the profile pic does nothing. trying toconnect from your profile page reproduces the original error.

phanisvara das

Wed, 07 Nov 2018 06:19:01 +0200

yes, i got a one-way connection to you again, as before. now try to create a NEW connection. that's what happened the last time. i suspect, as you did, that it'll work. some sync-stuff got mixed up. let's see...

Joltrast

Wed, 07 Nov 2018 06:20:08 +0200

So it appears you can initiate a connection whereas I cannot. I can and have accepted your connection.

phanisvara das

Wed, 07 Nov 2018 06:20:12 +0200

looks like it. connection is two-way now.

phanisvara das

Wed, 07 Nov 2018 06:21:46 +0200

ok, let's delete again, both of us. but this was what happened the last time. i already WAS connected to you when you tried.

phanisvara das

Wed, 07 Nov 2018 06:23:50 +0200

weird. just wrote something on your hub but it didn't get thru to this thread. i said, let's disconnect again, from both sides, and then you initiate a connection. i think that'll work too.

phanisvara das

Wed, 07 Nov 2018 06:25:03 +0200

deleted you again.

phanisvara das

Wed, 07 Nov 2018 06:26:03 +0200 last edited: Wed, 07 Nov 2018 06:30:15 +0200

you'll probably have to delete the one-way connection you have now and start another one. otherwise it won't show up in my connections.

edit: or me deleting the connection removed it from your end too, don't know. if you still have it you should delete it. and without any connection to me, start a new one.

Joltrast

Wed, 07 Nov 2018 06:32:03 +0200

I have deleted the conection

Joltrast

Wed, 07 Nov 2018 06:32:53 +0200

I don't think I can initiate a connection to you. This is when I get the error.

phanisvara das

Wed, 07 Nov 2018 06:34:41 +0200

got it again now?

phanisvara das

Wed, 07 Nov 2018 06:35:55 +0200

i don't see an incoming connection from you...yet.

Joltrast

Wed, 07 Nov 2018 06:36:55 +0200

I have not conected to you. Have you tried connecting to me?

Joltrast

Wed, 07 Nov 2018 06:38:26 +0200

I think what's happening is although I don't connect (and get an error message) you, at least see a connection request.

phanisvara das

Wed, 07 Nov 2018 06:39:32 +0200

joltrast still hasn't confirmed that it happened again. if it does i think it's my hub's fault. i'll start this over again anyway, better than trying to debug why it doesn't federate properly. i have two clones, so there's no real loss.

Joltrast

Wed, 07 Nov 2018 06:41:12 +0200

@M. Dent @M. Dent (Federated) said....

Delete everything. Give clones a chance to catch up (2 hours would be best) and then try a normal connection sequence with the regular flow.

Agreed. I'll not do anything until tomorrow.

phanisvara das

Wed, 07 Nov 2018 06:41:18 +0200

I think what's happening is although I don't connect (and get an error message) you, at least see a connection request.

so you did try to connect to me after deleting? i didn't see any request. but as i said, i'll rebuild this hub and we can try then.

Joltrast

Wed, 07 Nov 2018 06:43:59 +0200

@phanisvara das said.....

joltrast still hasn't confirmed that it happened again. if it does i think it's my hub's fault. i'll start this over again anyway, better than trying to debug why it doesn't federate properly. i have two clones, so there's no real loss.

Joltrast said....

I just tried to connect to you now. Pressing connect from the profile pic does nothing. trying toconnect from your profile page reproduces the original error.

I'll leave it until tomorrow, give the clones chance to sync up.

phanisvara das

Wed, 07 Nov 2018 06:46:52 +0200

sorry, that didn't make it into my stream yet. yes, then it's the same thing. i'll go and rebuild the hub...

Joltrast

Wed, 07 Nov 2018 07:16:24 +0200

I deleted all conections several hours ago once I had reproduced the error.
As I said, you can initiate a connection, I cannot. When I get the error, that's when you see a connection request on your hub.

phanisvara das

Wed, 07 Nov 2018 07:19:41 +0200

no, i didn't see any connection request from you. but i'm going to scrap the thing anyway now. posts from me don't get sent to diaspora, but when i'm on my tiksi.net account they do. something went wrong and instead of trying to figure out what i'll just rebuild the whole thing. after that we can try again. i'll let you know via diaspora and i'd be surprised if the same error happened again. was probably my (hub's) fault all along.

Joltrast

Wed, 07 Nov 2018 07:22:12 +0200

@Isaac Ji Kuo said...

I ran into that on hub . toot .cat, when trying to add a hubzilla contact. But it still seemed to add the contact anyway.

Yes, that seems to be exactly what I'm seeing here. I get an error and don't see a connection but the recipient receives a connection request.

phanisvara das

Wed, 07 Nov 2018 07:26:15 +0200

NO, I DIDN't receive a request from you!

Joltrast

Wed, 07 Nov 2018 07:34:01 +0200

Are you saying you have never received a request from me?

phanisvara das

Wed, 07 Nov 2018 07:36:55 +0200

nope.

phanisvara das

Wed, 07 Nov 2018 07:37:34 +0200

i mean yes, that's what i'm saying. never received a request from you.

i did connect to you but always had a one-way connection.

Joltrast

Wed, 07 Nov 2018 07:40:22 +0200 last edited: Wed, 07 Nov 2018 17:48:02 +0200

Then I misunderstood and apologise. We can try afresh tomorrow! Have a good evening/morning.

phanisvara das

Wed, 07 Nov 2018 07:42:23 +0200

it's noon here, but pretty good. my rebuilt hub should be ready by then. i'll tell you via diaspora and you can connect to me. i hope it'll work then.

Joltrast

Wed, 07 Nov 2018 08:20:52 +0200

Gone midnight here. We can test in a 8 hours or so.

Max Kostikov

Wed, 07 Nov 2018 09:29:59 +0200 last edited: Wed, 07 Nov 2018 09:30:48 +0200

It seems because of cloning all data from main channel including plugins list.
I think this have relation to following problem report.

Plugin maxversion limit (#1257) · Issues · hubzilla / core

phanisvara das

Wed, 07 Nov 2018 14:33:22 +0200

in the meantime i rebuilt my hub, but at the same address, and again diaspora won't federate. @Mario Vavti pointed out that diaspora will reject messages from the same address because the crypto keys changed with the new installation. so i'll have to change the hub's address. now trying to find out if that can be done after the installation w/o too much trouble...

phanisvara das

Wed, 07 Nov 2018 14:35:10 +0200

yes, but i was trying to connect to D* only from one of the clones.

phanisvara das

Wed, 07 Nov 2018 14:47:41 +0200

ah, right. so that's where my trouble comes from. and no point trying to "debug" that, with zot6 around the corner.

phanisvara das

Wed, 07 Nov 2018 14:50:10 +0200

mario v. just said creating a new channel should be enough, no need to change the address. that way i'll lose all my contacts, but those can be recreated. and i should probably delete the current profile so no federation attempts continue to that one, right?

phanisvara das

Wed, 07 Nov 2018 14:51:13 +0200

actually, that shouldn't really matter since a new channel is another hieve-mind altogether.